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Broadway's Leslie Odom Jr. & Nicolette Robinson Talk Parenting

Leslie Odom Jr. (also known as Hamilton’s Aaron Burr) and Nicolette Robinson join Dr. Becky to talk childhood wounds, breaking cycles, raising spirited kids, and navigating success while staying close in marriage. They share honest stories about repair, self-preservation, growth, and creating a legacy of kindness for their kids. Get the Good Inside App by Dr. Becky: https://bit.ly/4fSxbzk Your Good Inside membership might be eligible for HSA/FSA reimbursement! To learn more about how to get your membership reimbursed, check out the link here: https://www.goodinside.com/fsa-hsa-eligibility/ Follow Dr. Becky on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbeckyatgoodinside Sign up for our weekly email, Good Insider: https://www.goodinside.com/newsletter For a full transcript of the episode, go to [goodinside.com/podcast](http://goodinside.com/podcast). Thank you to our sponsor Hot Wheels. Check out our full series with Hot Wheels at [hotwheels.com/challengeaccepted](http://hotwheels.com/challengeaccepted). Thank you to our sponsor, Airbnb — because during the holidays, it’s nice to love your family *and* have your own space. Find your getaway or host your home at [airbnb.com/host](http://airbnb.com/host). Thank you to our sponsor Skylight. Head to [Skylight.com/BECKY](http://Skylight.com/BECKY) for $30 off their 15-inch calendars. This offer expires December 31st of this year. Thank you to our sponsor Zelle. When it counts, send money with Zelle. Ever wonder if your kid’s being… a little entitled? You’re not alone — and this live Q&A is for you. Join me for “How Not to Raise an A$$hole” on December 1st at 11:30 AM ET, where we’ll dig into why kids act ungrateful and how to build real empathy that lasts. Not yet a member? Join today and save your spot at [goodinside.com](http://www.goodinside.com?utm_source=&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=hownottoraiseanasshole_liveevent_dec_2025&utm_content=shownotes_20251125)

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Leslie Odom Jr. and Nicolette Robinson on boundaries, repair, resilience

  1. Leslie and Nicolette describe how their very different childhood environments shaped their internal worlds, coping strategies, and paths into performance.
  2. Leslie explains how growing up with trauma and emotionally immature dynamics blurred responsibility for others’ emotions, and how boundaries helped him separate his identity from others’ moods and reactions.
  3. Dr. Becky reframes boundary-setting and taking space as healthy, teachable skills (not rejection), and emphasizes proactive “calm-time” conversations to make hard moments easier.
  4. Nicolette shares how anxiety and depression intensified in motherhood, and how medication (Lexapro), alongside other supports, helped shift days from “impossible” to “hard” and improved her ability to stay regulated during tantrums.
  5. They highlight repair as a core cycle-breaking practice—showing how children learn to apologize and reconnect after conflict when adults model calm resets and reconnection.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Boundaries start with knowing where you end and others begin.

Leslie describes a new “defined self” where someone else’s mood isn’t automatically about him; this reduces over-responsibility and frees partners to have emotions without triggering panic or blame.

“You made me do it” creates a boundaryless family system.

They unpack how kids learn they are responsible for the household “weather,” which is adaptive for survival but harmful long-term; cycle breaking means reclaiming that adults manage their own reactions.

Taking space isn’t abandonment when it’s paired with connection.

Dr. Becky distinguishes rejection (“You’re too much”) from regulated space (“My body is activated; I’ll be back; I love you”), and recommends naming the plan in calm moments so kids can tolerate it during conflict.

Martyrdom is a form of boundarylessness that breeds resentment.

Dr. Becky and Leslie note that always sacrificing yourself can lead to invisibility and rage; modeling self-care and limits teaches kids that love doesn’t require self-erasure.

Repair is an underused parenting superpower—and kids copy it.

Leslie’s story of his toddler returning to apologize (“I do like you, Ria”) illustrates how calm resets, time, and trust can invite genuine repair—especially for adults who grew up with “no repair ever.”

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I wasn't allowed to come apart at home, so I came apart, you know, I tested the limits and d- did all that stuff outside the home.

Leslie Odom Jr.

That, that was the only place I was alive. I was, I was waiting for my autonomy. I was waiting to be free so that I could live fully, so that I could live joyfully.

Leslie Odom Jr.

It's such a wild thing to survive that and to have a person that was responsible for that kind of look at you and say, "Well, how bad could I have done? Look at, look at you."

Leslie Odom Jr.

You are conditioned in that way that, that you are responsible for the weather. You are responsible.

Leslie Odom Jr.

I know, I know where I end and where other people begin.

Leslie Odom Jr.

Different childhoods and creative developmentTrauma, emotional immaturity, and blame dynamicsCycle breaking through repairBoundaries, space, and self-definitionMartyrdom, resentment, and self-careMedication and support for parental mental healthWork–family balance during career surges (Hamilton)

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