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Modern Wisdom“This Will Be The Most Violent Election Of Our Lifetime” - Robert Pape
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Pape warns mass support for political violence is reshaping elections
- Robert Pape argues the top threat to the United States is mass support for political violence among tens of millions of Americans, which he says marks a new era he calls “violent populism.”
- He presents recent survey findings from the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats showing sharply increased support for political violence both against Trump and in support of Trump using force, and he warns this could make upcoming midterms uniquely dangerous.
- He describes how collective political violence can emerge from large gatherings through predictable escalation patterns, comparing dynamics he says were seen in the George Floyd protests, January 6, and campus protests after October 7.
- He contends the typical profile of political-violence supporters is now often well-educated and middle-class, and that social approval and community signaling can nudge volatile individuals into action.
- He attributes violent populism mainly to two underlying social changes—demographic transition toward a white minority democracy and increasing wealth concentration—amplified by social media and political leadership failures to push back against violence.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasThe central danger is mainstream support for political violence, not fringe groups or foreign states.
He argues the key shift is that support for violence is now embedded in mainstream political identity rather than being confined to fringe actors, which changes the scale and likelihood of events.
“Violent populism” is populism plus mass approval of political violence.
He defines “violent populism” as ordinary populist anger transformed into mass support for political violence, which he says encourages real-world violence by providing social approval.
His latest survey claims very large shares of Americans now endorse political violence on both sides.
He reports results from a newly completed national survey: 25% of American adults support using force to prevent Trump from being president, and 16% support Trump using the U.S. military to suppress Democratic protesters; he characterizes this as about 100 million Americans supporting political violence as midterms approach.
Collective political violence often emerges when peaceful events splinter and a trigger concentrates action.
He describes repeated “wildfire” dynamics: protests begin peacefully, then splinter groups drive violence later (he says this pattern was visible in George Floyd protests), and he describes January 6 as a small fraction of a large crowd becoming violent after a focal-point trigger.
Supporters and perpetrators can look like “normal,” established, middle-class Americans.
He says a common stereotype (young, rural, unemployed militia members) no longer fits; he describes many January 6 defendants as well-educated, middle-class people with careers and assets, and says only 10% were militia members.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesThe number one threat to America is not from a foreign government, even Iran. It's not from a fringe militia group. It's from tens of millions of Americans who support political violence. Once you have support for political violence lodged in the mainstream of society, this changes everything.
— Robert Pape
What we are seeing is a cycle that I call America's domestic escalation trap, where whoever loses in the midterms, we are likely to see not just simply passive acceptance or even peaceful protests. We are likely to see violent protests, whoever loses, that may be larger than January 6th.
— Robert Pape
25% of American adults support the use of force to prevent President Trump from being president. That equates to 65 million American adults.
— Robert Pape
The new stereotype, Chris, before I go into examples, are essentially well-educated, middle-class Americans, nice homes, and a 401 , and they wear a suit and tie. That is your standard insurrectionist.
— Robert Pape
The fact of the matter is that when, um, uh, there is mass support for political violence, uh, this translates into actual political violence.
— Robert Pape
SPEAKERS
Chris Williamson
hostHost of Modern Wisdom and interviewer who reads sponsor ads and promotes his live tour.
Robert Pape
guestPolitical scientist and terrorism/political violence researcher at the University of Chicago, affiliated with the Project on Security and Threats.
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