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"I Had Dinner With The King. I Was Once Homeless" | John McCalla-Leacy

John McCalla-Leacy is a former KPMG global executive, coach, speaker, former international canoeist, martial arts champion and one of the most extraordinary origin stories ever told on this podcast.

David McIntosh JrhostJohn McCalla-Leacyguest
Jun 5, 20261h 41mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

From homelessness to global leadership: resilience, community, and reinvention mastery

  1. McCalla-Leacy frames adversity as “hydrodynamic drag” that can build strength, arguing that reframing hardship into training for resilience is a repeatable life skill.
  2. He credits community—from Windrush-era mutual aid and coaching culture to the Prince’s Trust/Kings Trust—with creating pivotal “noticed and acted on” opportunities.
  3. A recurring method is process-over-outcome thinking: breaking complex goals (sport, languages, public speaking, leadership) into controllable parts and executing with consistency.
  4. He warns that high earnings don’t automatically create security, advocating values-based spending, resisting lifestyle inflation, and defining “enough” to escape the corporate treadmill.
  5. The conversation culminates in how a Prince’s Trust grant changed his trajectory, leading to a Queen meeting, ongoing work with (then) Prince Charles, and a dinner with the King that reinforced his belief in grounded, hands-on leadership.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Use “drag” as training, not as proof you’re behind.

His leaky-boat canoeing and long commutes became a metaphor: friction increases effort now but can build capability you keep when conditions improve.

Community is a performance multiplier, not a soft add-on.

From Jamaican “hands” savings circles to elite sport coaching norms, he argues mutual aid increases everyone’s ceiling—“twice blessed” because helping others improves you too.

Focus on what’s controllable: process beats outcomes in unstable environments.

Like wind moving slalom gates, many variables can’t be controlled; excellence comes from repeatable preparation, execution, and post-event learning cycles.

Break any intimidating goal into constituent parts and rehearse deliberately.

He learned Italian for a Benetton interview and became a strong public speaker by scripting likely questions, writing answers, practicing recordings, and iterating—skill is engineered, not gifted.

Reframing is a leadership tool that changes energy without changing facts.

In a budget-cut meeting, he shifted the group from panic to collaboration by naming the constraint as a forcing function for focus, synergy, and eliminating duplication.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I was old enough to, to understand what was going on, but not old enough to influence any of the outcomes.

— John McCalla-Leacy

You're the snowball. All of you guys are the snowballs, and I know that one day you're gonna overtake me, and you're absolutely gonna flatten me. But I also know that the split second before you do that, I'll be running faster than I ever have done.

— Richard Fox (recounted by John McCalla-Leacy)

When you support somebody else, you're twice blessed. You're, you're helping them, but then also it flows back on yourself.

— John McCalla-Leacy

The best tool for me today, a mindset tool, is, is the ability to reframe every situation.

— John McCalla-Leacy

Some of the people that I work with... I mean, as a partner at KPMG, an equity partner, you get paid very, very well... and look, um, what I would say is that you're never gonna make enough, right?

— John McCalla-Leacy

Read the available transcript
Windrush upbringing, community networks, and principlesCanoeing origin story, fear, pride, and elite performanceCoaching culture, mutual support, and the “snowball” metaphorReframing adversity: friction, drag, and elective hardshipProcess excellence vs outcome obsessionReinvention across careers: fashion, IT, M&A, ESG leadershipFinancial independence, lifestyle inflation, and defining “enough”Grief, mortality shocks, and values realignmentRoyal family connection via The Prince’s/King’s TrustTurning injustice into service: policing experience and lay visiting

SPEAKERS

  • David McIntosh Jr

    host

    Host of Origin Story w/ David McIntosh Jr and interviewer guiding the conversation.

  • John McCalla-Leacy

    guest

    Formerly homeless South Londoner who became a KPMG equity partner and is connected with The Prince’s/King’s Trust and King Charles.

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