Elon & Trump Fight! The Breakup of the Summer | Pivot

The day has come! Kara and Scott discuss Trump and Elon’s bromance coming to a fiery end. Then, a new slew of Executive Orders, and President Trump’s trade call with China’s President Xi. Plus, Jerome Powell faces heat from President Trump (again), California’s State Senate looks into Paramount’s reported settlement offer to Trump, and shareholders at Warner Bros. Discovery reject a pay package for CEO David Zaslav. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 0:17 Trump and Elon’s Messy Breakup 21:24 Trump's Executive Orders and China Trade Talks 35:02 Trump Lashes Out at Fed Chair 39:11 Paramount’s Settlement with Trump 50:46 Predictions #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #trump #donaldtrump #elon #elonmusk #china #trade #travelban #harvard #paramount Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost

Jun 6, 202555mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: June 6, 2025
Duration: 55m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

The day has come! Kara and Scott discuss Trump and Elon’s bromance coming to a fiery end. Then, a new slew of Executive Orders, and President Trump’s trade call with China’s President Xi. Plus, Jerome Powell faces heat from President Trump (again), California’s State Senate looks into Paramount’s reported settlement offer to Trump, and shareholders at Warner Bros. Discovery reject a pay package for CEO David Zaslav. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 0:17 Trump and Elon’s Messy Breakup 21:24 Trump's Executive Orders and China Trade Talks 35:02 Trump Lashes Out at Fed Chair 39:11 Paramount’s Settlement with Trump 50:46 Predictions #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #trump #donaldtrump #elon #elonmusk #china #trade #travelban #harvard #paramount Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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Kara Swisher
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Scott Galloway
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, Elon & Trump Fight! The Breakup of the Summer | Pivot explores elon–Trump bromance implodes as chaos reshapes tech, politics, media Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dissect the spectacular public breakup between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, framing it as a clash of two "man-children" with outsize power, fragile egos, and significant consequences for markets and democracy. They explore how Musk’s online escalation and Trump’s retaliatory threats could damage Tesla, SpaceX/Starlink, and U.S. policy, while potentially shifting Musk politically back toward the center. The conversation widens to Trump’s new executive orders, trade and tariff brinkmanship with China, attacks on universities and the press, and the Paramount–Trump settlement controversy as examples of creeping autocracy and corporate capitulation. Throughout, they argue that U.S. institutions, CEOs, and media owners are being tested on whether they will trade democratic norms and credibility for short‑term protection and profit.

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