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Jay Shetty PodcastNessa Barrett ON How To Deal With Loneliness & Heal After A Breakup
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Nessa Barrett on Loneliness, Anorexia, Breakups and Self-Love
- Nessa Barrett explains how she ran away from New Jersey at 17 to pursue music in California, funded by the social media following she gained in high school.
- She describes loneliness as her biggest challenge in the industry and details how anorexia affects her touring and performing, while urging loved ones to offer patient support rather than advice.
- She breaks down her Eight Stages of a Breakup, naming the desperate bargaining stage as the hardest and recovering from codependency as the longest, and explains how public breakups make healing harder.
- She credits therapy and hypnotherapy with repairing her family relationships, and says self-love comes from recognizing what you have survived and achieved.
- She describes her on-stage burn box ritual, her wish to give fans a voice, and her advice to young artists to stay honest and true to themselves.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasChosen struggles can be worth it
Nessa says she would rather face the difficulties of her music career than do something she does not love. Jay adds that stress exists on every path, so the choice is which struggle you prefer.
Success does not cure loneliness
Nessa says performing for thousands and then returning to an empty hotel room feels intensely lonely. She says it is hard to find trustworthy people in the industry, and she has found only about four.
Support beats advice for eating disorders
Nessa says eating disorders look different on everyone and that outsiders cannot fully understand them. She suggests giving love, patience and grace instead of advice, and notes that being told she looks 'healthy' can trigger her.
Public breakups remove the chance to disconnect
Nessa explains that she cannot cut off contact the way people usually do after a breakup, because the relationship is constantly discussed and shown everywhere. Public speculation adds pain on top of her grief.
The desperate stage is hardest; codependency recovery is longest
Nessa calls the bargaining phase the hardest because it leads to more heartbreak. She says recovering from codependency takes longest because you must learn to be your own comfort.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesThe word healthy to everyone is a great word. Everyone wants to be healthy, but for me, when someone says that I look healthy, it makes me want to spiral.
— Nessa Barrett
I feel like self-love is a lot less superficial than, um, you know, any other love could possibly be.
— Nessa Barrett
I kinda use my music to be the voice for the voiceless.
— Nessa Barrett
When I go on tour, per se, and I perform in front of thousands of people, and, um, I get offstage and I go back into a hotel room by myself, there's not a single thing that could explain how empty and lonely that feels, you know?
— Nessa Barrett
I believe that self-care comes from comfort but self-respect comes from discomfort.
— Jay Shetty
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Nessa Barrett
guestSinger-songwriter and recording artist discussing mental health, loneliness, and healing after breakups.
Jay Shetty
hostPodcast host and author of self-help/relationships books, known for interviewing guests on wellbeing and purpose.
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