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The 3 SIGNS You're Dealing With A Narcissist & How To SET BOUNDARIES! | Dr. Ramani & Jay Shetty

Today, I am talking to Dr. Ramani Durvasula, a licensed clinical psychologist in Los Angeles, CA, Professor Emerita of Psychology at California State University, Los Angeles, and the Founder and CEO of LUNA Education, Training & Consulting.

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Dec 12, 20221h 13mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Dr. Ramani explains narcissism, gaslighting, love bombing, and how to protect yourself

  1. Dr. Ramani distinguishes narcissism as a rigid, antagonistic personality style from narcissistic personality disorder, a diagnosis requiring a licensed practitioner, and warns against using the term for a single bad act or a bad week.
  2. She describes how narcissism can develop from a mix of temperament, attachment problems, early adversity and overindulgence, and notes that these origins shape whether the adult is grandiose or more resentful and aggrieved.
  3. She explains how love bombing and intermittent good days keep people hooked, why it often takes one to three years to see the pattern, and why gaslighting is a repeated denial of reality combined with telling someone something is wrong with them.
  4. On staying versus leaving, she says narcissistic patterns rarely change, that about half of people stay for reasons no one should judge, and that staying calls for realistic expectations, protecting one's authentic self, and building other sources of support.
  5. She closes by urging people to put their hope in themselves rather than in changing the narcissistic partner, framing healing as individuation and reclaiming one's own story.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Narcissism is a stable personality style, not a one-off behavior

Dr. Ramani says a person who is usually warm and self-aware but has a bad week is not narcissistic, and that cheating alone does not make someone narcissistic. She describes narcissism as a persistent pattern of entitlement, lack of empathy, and validation-seeking.

A diagnosis requires distress or impairment that narcissistic people often lack

Because a disorder diagnosis needs subjective distress or social and occupational impairment, many narcissistic people, who feel on top of the world, never seek treatment. When they do, it is usually for something else like a failing marriage or substance use.

The good days are what keep people hooked

Narcissistic people are not cartoon villains, and charm, fun, and love bombing alternate with devaluation like extreme weather. Dr. Ramani advises people to plan on the good days and to see the pattern, which often takes one to three years to emerge.

Gaslighting has three parts

She describes it as denying someone's reality, then telling them something is wrong with them, and doing so repeatedly over time. It relies on trust and differs from lying because lies get shut down by evidence.

Pulling back on love bombing tests the other person

Asking to slow things down reveals how someone responds. A self-aware person adjusts, while a narcissistic person often doubts your commitment because you have taken away their game.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The hardest thing I believe a human being can do is to sit with those multiple truths and not run away.

— Dr. Ramani Durvasula

Gaslighting is a lie but wrapped up in this invalidating bow.

— Dr. Ramani Durvasula

I think everyone's been misplacing their hope in the narcissistic relationship. The hope needs to be in one's self

— Dr. Ramani Durvasula

A couple of pixels teach you nothing. Lots of pixels make a picture

— Dr. Ramani Durvasula

I do believe that self-care and that restraint in these kinds of toxic relationships is literally an act of rebellion.

— Dr. Ramani Durvasula

Read the available transcript
Narcissism versus narcissistic personality disorderOrigins of narcissistic personalityLove bombingGaslighting versus lyingCognitive dissonance and multiple truthsRealistic expectations and boundariesIndividuation and healing

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  • Dr. Ramani Durvasula

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    Clinical psychologist and therapist known for expertise on narcissism, gaslighting, and relationship boundary-setting.

  • Jay Shetty

    host

    Host of the podcast 'On Purpose' and author who interviews guests on wellbeing, mindset, and relationships.

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