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The Jefferson Fisher PodcastWhat Serving 7 Years in Prison Taught Damon West About Communication
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
From Life Sentence to Coffee Bean: Damon West's Redemption Story
- Damon West describes going from a Division I quarterback and Wall Street worker to a meth-addicted burglary ringleader who received a 65-year sentence after a 10-minute jury deliberation.
- In prison he adopted the coffee bean metaphor from an older man named Muhammad, choosing to change his environment rather than be softened or hardened by it, and he did so through servant leadership such as teaching fellow inmates to read.
- West argues that talking to yourself with reminders of past wins, rather than listening to the voice of fear and doubt, and being careful about what you consume, is central to his resilience.
- He credits listening, preparation, and visualizing conversations for his parole success and for the persistence that led from seven rejections at a coaches' event to a speaking breakthrough with Clemson and a bestselling book.
- West explains that his upcoming book, Six Dimes and a Nickel, collects life lessons from his sentence, and he closes by saying that hearing 'I believe in you' from another person is among the most powerful things in communication.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasTalk to yourself rather than listening to yourself
West says the voice in your head can be fear or doubt, so he deliberately speaks to himself aloud and reminds himself of past successes and hard things he has overcome.
Be the coffee bean, not the carrot or egg
Muhammad told West that people in a pot of boiling water can be softened, hardened, or become the change agent that transforms the water around them, and West took that as his goal in prison.
Listening with clarity is a superpower
West says that when people feel heard they feel part of a team, and that listening helped him read cues from the parole board member and understand what inmates wanted.
Prepare, visualize, and anticipate contingencies
West prepared for the parole interview by asking others about it and planning for the poison pill question, and Jefferson Fisher agrees he visualizes and plans for important conversations such as jury trials.
Service opens people up to communication
West taught inmates to read and prepare for the GED, and says serving others made them more receptive to him; Fisher adds that beginning a conversation with service, such as asking questions or giving sincere compliments, leads to better communication.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI meet more people out here in the free world that are locked up than I ever did when I served time in a real prison, because more people are imprisoned by their thoughts, their things, and their prejudices by, than by steel bars and barbed wire and concrete combined.
— Damon West
We have to remind ourselves of the times when we've had success, the times that we won, and that way we can tell ourselves, you know, "I've done hard things, so I can do hard things again."
— Damon West
when you can listen to what people are telling you, then people feel like they've been heard, and everybody wants to feel like they've been heard
— Damon West
Every problem in my life, I play a role in that problem somewhere. And when I work through a personal inventory, I'm trying to figure out the role that I play 'cause if I can find out the role that I play in that problem, that's the only thing I can change, that's the only thing I can fix, and that's the only thing I can control.
— Damon West
I believe in you. There's something magical that happens, Jefferson, when we hear that coming from someone else, man.
— Damon West
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SPEAKERS
Jefferson Fisher
hostTrial lawyer and host of The Jefferson Fisher Podcast focused on communication and conflict resolution.
Damon West
guestAuthor and keynote speaker who served seven years in prison after a 65-year sentence and shares lessons on transformation and communication.
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