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Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- May 13, 2025
- Duration
- 1h 1m
- Channel
- Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss the U.S. and China temporarily putting their trade war on hold, and evaluate the damage that's been done. Then, President Trump is poised to accept a jet from Qatar to be the new Air Force One. Is this his griftiest grift yet? Plus, Pope Leo shares his thoughts on AI, Newark Airport chaos continues, and Elizabeth Holmes's partner starts a company that claims to be "the future of diagnostics." Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 12:04 U.S./China Trade Deal 18:01 Trump’s Luxury Plane from Qatar 23:34 Pope Mania 32:43 Newark Airport Chaos 39:08 Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Company 43:17 OpenAI IPO? 46:50 Wins and Fails #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #china #tariffs #trade #trump #donaldtrump #luxury #planes #jets #qatar #pope #newpope #newark #newarkairport #elizabethholmes #billyevans #openai Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot
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Kara Swisher
hostScott Galloway
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EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, Gift or Grift? Trump’s $400M Qatar Jet Deal | Pivot explores Trump’s Qatar Jet, China Tariffs, Woke Pope: Grift Meets Geopolitics Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway bounce from personal travel stories and media-industry gossip into a broad discussion of American corruption, geopolitics, and tech. They dissect the US–China tariff rollback, arguing it exposes weak negotiation, harms US credibility, and advantages Europe and China. The pair then slam Trump’s $400M Qatar-funded Air Force One-style jet as blatant, destabilizing grift tied to a regime that bankrolls Hamas, before exploring the political implications of an American, tech-savvy Pope and ongoing culture wars. They close with concerns about crumbling US infrastructure, Elizabeth Holmes’ partner launching a Theranos-adjacent startup, and OpenAI’s likely IPO as an AI capital arms race.
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