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ADHD Chatter PodcastRoxanne Emery & Richard Pink (ADHD Love): From Addicts to Best Selling Authors
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Sobriety, ADHD Diagnosis, Self-Worth and Building Love Through Understanding Together
- Roxanne Emery describes a chaotic twenties of alcoholism, debt and mental health struggles, and a late ADHD diagnosis at 36 that brought both joy and grief and replaced self-blame with self-kindness.
- Richard Pink explains that understanding ADHD transformed how he read behaviors like lateness and forgetfulness, though he says it still takes ongoing work to stay calm and treat symptoms as a shared challenge.
- Both discuss getting sober, with Roxanne five years and Richard three, describing life as harder because they must feel everything but far better, and redefining good mental health as tolerating difficult feelings with new skills.
- Their content grew from a spontaneous tampon joke video into a community and bestselling books, including an upcoming one called Small Talk, built on a poll showing deep self-hatred among people with ADHD.
- They discuss masking, imposter syndrome, dismissive reactions such as calling ADHD a trend, and their most impulsive acts, which include Roxanne losing over £100,000 to a scam and Richard leaving a 20-year bank career.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasA diagnosis can reframe a lifetime of shame
Roxanne says she had seen her symptoms as personality flaws, and diagnosis let her see she was not broken, lazy or stupid, even as she grieved the lost years.
Understanding ADHD helps a relationship but does not do all the work
Richard says that knowing behaviors are ADHD only goes so far, and he still had to learn to communicate calmly and acknowledge it is not Roxanne's fault, so the pair face symptoms together.
Good mental health means tolerating feelings, not eliminating them
Roxanne says she once thought good meant calm and stoic, but now sees it as feeling anxiety or sadness and coping with better skills and support. Richard adds that they both treated therapy like a video game to complete before returning to it.
Sobriety was harder but transformative
Roxanne says getting sober forced her to feel everything yet led to a life beyond her dreams, and Richard says his recovery from alcohol and gambling made things a lot harder but a million times better.
Unmasking begins in safe places
Roxanne advises starting to tell the truth with a safe home, friend or therapist rather than everywhere, while Richard links masking to fear of rejection and notes that vulnerability may stay with safe people.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesInternal shame becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, so if you think you're a bad person, you are actually gonna end up acting in bad ways to almost make that come true.
— Roxanne Emery
Good mental health is the ability to still feel anxious and depressed and even low self-esteem, but to tolerate it with new skills.
— Roxanne Emery
The joy was, "Oh, my God. I'm not horrible. I'm not broken. I make sense."
— Roxanne Emery
Unmasking begins in safe places.
— Roxanne Emery
Hard choices make beautiful lives. I really, really truly believe that.
— Roxanne Emery
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SPEAKERS
Alex Partridge
hostHost of the podcast “ADHD Chatter,” interviewing guests about ADHD experiences and advocacy.
Richard Pink
guestCo-creator of ADHD Love and co-author, sharing a non-ADHD partner perspective and his addiction/recovery journey.
Roxanne Emery
guestADHD Love co-creator and bestselling author/musician discussing her ADHD diagnosis, masking, and recovery.
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